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Post by chronoeclipse on Jul 30, 2021 12:06:52 GMT -6
So back on the topic of elderly superhero costumes. Obviously, their suits would need to leave room for Depends in some cases. Maybe orthopedic boots? Wrist guards? Girdles?
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Post by chronoeclipse on Jul 30, 2021 10:00:37 GMT -6
I mean, I think picturing them trying to squeeze into the sexy costumes of their youth is more fun. But practically I imagine Carol would go for some padded chest armor and firmer material so that A) Her old saggers weren't flopping about as she flew around everywhere. B) You could see the curves of her chest at all.
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Post by chronoeclipse on Jul 30, 2021 9:52:36 GMT -6
It's also amazing that these ladies are insisting on suiting up in their skin-tight uniforms despite all of their sags and bags. That spandex can't possibly offer the chest support these old ladies need.
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Post by chronoeclipse on Jul 30, 2021 8:18:21 GMT -6
These are great! Love the idea that the heroes are still doing heroing in their dotage. They are obviously more frail and brittle than they were in their youth - but also how many of them are going senile and just busting up the wrong people thinking that they might be Hydra?
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Post by chronoeclipse on Jul 25, 2021 19:08:46 GMT -6
So in short, only three bits of aging and no actual AP, just sicknesses spreading....one job M Night. Well, no - there was plenty of AP in the film. The whole film was literally about age progression. It just had only two people aging to OLD age. Many made it to middle-age and all of the children went from kids to adults.
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Post by chronoeclipse on Jul 24, 2021 15:06:57 GMT -6
Automatically, for the third act, I want more close ups with aging effects on their bodies: relating to the Trophy wife again, a couple ten second scenes showcasing her declining body or even feeling a fracture from her osteoporosis ridden body. Just a random thought. I definitely would have played with the juxtaposition of Abbey Lee's character starting the film as a "For the 'Gram" kind of social media obsessed trophy wife to a "I'm a Gram!" old woman struggling with the loss of her looks and beauty. Was really thinking they were going there with her moments of talking about dumping guys because they offered her no value etc. I would have played up her osteoporosis later in life where she's a frail, hunched over old woman dressed in an ill-fitting bikini whose whole identity is thrown out of the window from sudden old-age. There's also a really nice moment from the graphic novel that's lost in the film - where the formerly little girl gives birth and the woman the Trophy Wife is based on goes "You can't have a baby! Do I look like a grandmother?" and the other adults look at her aging face (which was probably in its 50s or 60s at that point) and are like "Errr, yeah, kinda..." - Would have LOVED to have that scene with Abbey Lee done up with frown lines, graying hair and jowls.
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Post by chronoeclipse on Jul 24, 2021 14:40:55 GMT -6
My thought is - from seeing the movie and hearing M. Night talk about it in interviews that the director got a bit sentimental in telling the story in relation to his own family.
He saw himself as the dad, his wife as Vicky Krieps and the kids as his own kids - Which is why (Spoiler alert):
The kids survive in the end and have that final moment of "We're going to be okay." It's really M. Night wanting to think that his own kids will be fine once he and his wife eventually pass away and/or the kids move into their own adulthood and autonomy.
So that's why I think 100% of the actual aging and ruminations on aging in the film were focused around that nuclear family (As opposed to Sandcastles which ruminated on aging, death and the fleetingness of life for ALL of the characters). Shyamalan saw all the other characters in the story beyond the core-four family members as cannon fodder to dispose of in "creative" body-horror ways.
In my opinion, this did a disservice to his central premise and we would have gotten both a better movie and a more satisfying movie is he had extended the aging and the 'life in a day' aspects to ALL of the characters of his film. It also would have been a truer adaptation.
I have some ideas on how I would have worked the third act differently. But it is what it is!
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Post by chronoeclipse on Jul 24, 2021 9:54:46 GMT -6
( SPOLIERS BELOW) I just got back from seeing M. Night Shyamalan. I thought I would post something about the age progression in the film in case anyone else here was considering seeing it. I'll try to steer from giving away too much of the plot. Ultimately, I was pretty disappointed. The only female character who we really see age via makeup is Vicky Krieps's character. This mostly consists of adding some wrinkles to her face. Also, the character goes deaf because of her aging which impacts the way she acts. This creates a mild mental ap effect, but she mostly acts the same throughout the film. This character's daughter is played by three actors throughout the film. The first one is eleven, the second is late teens, and the third is in her late fifties I would say. I thought all three of these actress did a good job at showing slight mental ap. The character remains mostly a child but has still matured somewhat by the time she is in her fifties. By far the biggest disappointed involves the trophy wife character played by Abbey Lee. She gets a few wrinkles but except for one notable shot we seldom see her face. She real bummer is that she is wearing a really skimpy bathing suit, but the aging doesn't impact her figure at all. The characters suffers from a calcium deficiency which results in her developing a hunch. However, this reveal is during a night scene, so we don't see it very well. This calcium deficiency also results in some body horror which I enjoyed as a horror fan, but I didn't really have anything to do with aging. Anyway, I would say that if you interested in seeing this based strictly on the AP stuff, I would wait for the rental. However, it is sort of a fun and silly horror movie. Shyamalan for all his flaw has a great eye for composing shots, and there is some really great cinematography. If anyone else sees this over the weekend, I'm interested in hearing your thoughts. I saw it yesterday too and agree with all of your points. My feeling is that if it had been a Sci-Fi film as opposed to a Horror/Thriller with the same plot we would have gotten more satisfying aging. But as it is - not enough characters survive to see Old Age in a film about suddenly growing old. There are definitely gems in the movie for Middle-age AP fans and I think folks that like child to adult AP will be REALLY happy with this film. But old age AP fans, like Bob said, just have Vicky Krieps' transformation to enjoy. I thought the hearing loss bit was a nice touch but they certainly use dark lighting to cheat on the aging effects when she gets into old age. Also an important note and a big let down - Similar to the X-Files episode Dod Kalm - No graying/gray hair.
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Post by chronoeclipse on Jul 21, 2021 7:53:30 GMT -6
Dolly Parton recreated the Playboy cover that she did back in 1978 this week at age 75 for her husbands birthday. Here is the original: Here she is in the get-up at 75: She definitely doesn't look her age but her bust is certainly much more spread in the updated pics!
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Post by chronoeclipse on Jul 7, 2021 9:06:39 GMT -6
Another mod must have taken care of that for you because i'm not seeing another thread with this story.
One more thought on the story though - I like how it feels as if we are picking up almost in the middle of the scene, so it's entirely plausible that Macy and the narrator were actually even YOUNGER moments before the story starts.
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Post by chronoeclipse on Jul 6, 2021 22:39:03 GMT -6
Very fun story! Thanks for sharing it! I remember Macy from Youthdrains 'He's Got The Power' and you definitely did her wrinkly namesake proud!
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Post by chronoeclipse on May 25, 2021 8:28:22 GMT -6
I think it's amusement parks have great potential for AP stories. In fact I wrote one set in an amusement park years ago. Though mine had general aging across the whole park - I think it would be fun for each of the rides and activities to change peoples ages in different ways. Play up the various rides - like maybe a roller coaster that ages and regresses you depending on whether you're going up or down a hill etc.
Someone shared some videos on here a while ago of a woman riding in the cockpit of an airplane topless and her breasts rose and fell throughout it- I always felt like there was some awesome potential for a really visually satisfying scene of a teenage girl with perky breasts riding on one of those 'Tower Drop' rides and aging as she plummets, with her breasts growing and then sagging so that they are like a pair of wrinkly wind-socks flopping in her face as she gets towards the bottom.
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Post by chronoeclipse on May 21, 2021 10:18:01 GMT -6
Old person smell
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Old person smell is the characteristic odor of elderly humans. Much like many animal species, human odor undergoes distinct stages based on chemical changes initiated through the aging process. Research suggests that this enables humans to determine the suitability of potential partners based on age, in addition to other factors.
One study suggested that old person smell may be the result of 2-nonenal, an unsaturated aldehyde which is associated with human body odor alterations during aging; however, there are other hypotheses. Another study failed to detect 2-nonenal at all, but found significantly increased concentrations of benzothiazole, dimethylsulphone, and nonanal on older subjects.
In 2012 the Monell Chemical Senses Center published a press release claiming that the human ability to identify information such as age, illness, and genetic suitability from odor is responsible for the distinctive "old man smell". Sensory neuroscientist Johan Lundström stated, "Elderly people have a discernible underarm odor that younger people consider to be fairly neutral and not very unpleasant."
Old person smell is known as kareishū (加齢臭) in Japan, where much social value is placed on personal grooming, and specific upmarket odor-eliminating soaps are targeted at more elderly consumers.
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Post by chronoeclipse on May 4, 2021 12:25:24 GMT -6
Picture a 87 year old woman dressed like Slave Leia, her wrinkled body draped on a bed. In a future where May 4th is an official holiday. 🧓🏻... Wow. 👵🏻May The 4th Be With You, Nerf Herder. 🧓🏻You know damned well I'm a Trekkie. 👵🏻*Giggles* I don't see any Star Trek Holidays on the calendar. Do you? 🧓🏻... 🧓🏻I'm gonna Jabba your Hutt. This is Ross's mom on Friends from The One With the Princess Leia Fantasy. Unfortunately she was only 61 at the time. (A mere 10 years older than Jennifer Aniston is today!) I remember when I saw this episode it tickled my AP sensibilities because it's actually Rachel dressed like this in the scene but Ross is a haunted man and when he looks at her he sees his mother in the Slave Leia costume. So from my perspective it looked like a 20-something suddenly turning into a 60-something woman.
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Post by chronoeclipse on Apr 30, 2021 8:24:38 GMT -6
I'd like to imagine her forcing orderlies at the nursing home to play that game with her when she's in her 80s: "Nope... lower... lower... still lower..."
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